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      Errors in the KJV???


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      There are other contentions from the site, but on 1 John 5:7, if you read by that assumed "corrected" version as displayed at that site in context from verse 6 to verse 9, the question is then how is the witness of God greater than men's witness? By removing the disputed verse 7, you do not have an explanation for why God's witness is greater than men's.

      Although I do not agree with Jack Chick's condemnation that all Catholics are going to hell simply because if they believe in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God raised Him from the dead, they are saved, his site is selling a book which is showing the necessary information on a web page from that book for us to discuss the validity of 1 John 5:7 as being actual scripture by extra biblical resources that cited it as written as is.

      https://www.chick.com/information/ar...er-manuscripts

      "250 AD
      Cyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin)"

      "350 AD
      Priscillian referred to it [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]'

      "450-530 AD
      Several orthodox African writers quoted the verse when defending the doctrine of the Trinity against the gainsaying of the Vandals. These writers are:
      A) Vigilius Tapensis in "Three Witnesses in Heaven"
      B) Victor Vitensis in his Historia persecutionis [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. vii, p. 60.]
      C) Fulgentius in "The Three Heavenly Witnesses" [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 65, col. 500.] "

      Those are just a few that were listed from that site.

      And there are reasons why 1 John 5:7 was not originally found in the Majority texts as explained at that web page prior to scrolling down to see that trail of evidence.

      But I do point out the contention that 1 John 5:7 belongs in scripture because of verse 9 because by removing the three Witnesses from Heaven, the truth about God's witness being greater than men's witness leaves the question to the reader in how that can be. The flow of the context of the message is interrupted by removing 1 John 5:7.

      Anyway, that is one contention I would like to point out as citing it as an error in the KJV when in truth, it is not. 1 John 5:7 belongs as is in scripture about the Three Witnesses in Heaven.

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      The other contention is Acts 12:4 when the KJV has it as Easter. The Greek word for Passover was of the Chaldean origin; not Hebrew. Passover is a one day marked on the calendar as 15 days from the new moon. Passover is followed by the 7 days of the unleavened bread. Therefore it cannot be after Passover nor is it reasoned to be called Passover season when Herod was not a Jew that would honor the Passover and the 7 days of the unleavened bread. Being of the Chaldean origin, there are other festivities marked for that usage at the time of the Passover and the 7 days of unleavened bread which was Easter that being of the Chaldean origin may also refer to.

      Since there has been an effort by the Jewish council to change scripture in the O.T. to deny the prophesies testifying of Jesus Christ, there should be no doubt that they would deny that Passover is just referring to that specific day which fortunately, scripture still maintains in the O.T. that Passover is a specific day not to be concluded with the 7 days of the unleavened bread to call that 7 days of the unleavened bread as the Passover.

      Leviticus 23:4 These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. 5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord's passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

      They may argue that for season per verse 4, but feasts is plural and the singular feast of the unleavened bread is therefore separate from the feast of the Passover. It is not the same feast.

      Over 50 KJV translators with education checked that out and reasoned that it cannot be called the Passover in truth in Acts 12:4 when Herod took after Peter per verse 3 for then was the days of the unleavened bread.

      Acts 12:1 Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.
      2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.
      3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
      4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

      Passover is before the days of the unleavened bread; not afterwards. So Easter had to be applied because it wasn't really after that Passover day.

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      Addressing this contention of "Genesis 1:2 - And the earth BECAME without form and void . . ." as if that is what it should be written as when it is not.

      Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
      2 And the earth was without form, and void;.....

      Verse 1 is the topic and the following verses to Genesis 2:3 is how God did it in 7 days.

      Verse 2 is signifying that the earth was not created yet on day One, and so the point of Day one was to create what a day was by that creation of light; there was morning and evening that day as a 24 hour period day.

      Day 2 was the beginning of the creation of earth as it became a water planet with an upper atmosphere.

      Day 3 that one land mass appeared with plant life bearing fruits and seeds.

      There you have it. Earth has now been created and formed on Day 3.

      Then Day 4, the heavens were created to give their lights to the earth. That means not only the sources of those lights were created, but God filled in the gap with their lights to govern the earth that day for the times and seasons.

      So no. The earth did not 'became" without form and void. That would suggest that there was an earth but it "became" without form and void, and as it is, that is not the truth in His words, because the earth was not, as it was without form and void as in not there until fully created on day 3.

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      I have contention on this supposed "correction" of the KJV which is "1Corinthians 1:18 - For to those who are perishing, the preaching of the cross is foolishness; but to us who ARE BEING saved, it is the power of God."

      There are many believers and churches that believes water baptism is essential for salvation and that is not so. The original verse 18 in the KJV is correct because Paul is testifying to the power of God being able to save those that believe; hence those who believe are saved.

      1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
      17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
      18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God...
      21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe...

      We should take note why no flesh shall glory in His Presence in Heaven by how Paul noted the reality of Christ in how we are now as saved in verse 30.

      29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
      30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
      31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

      How we build on that foundation, ( 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 & Revelation 2:21-23 ) God will judge us when the Bridegroom comes ( 1 Peter 4:17-19 KJV ). If any believer is in unrepented works of iniquity ( Titus 1:16; 2 Timothy 2:12 ), they run the risk of being disqualified to attend the Marriage Supper in heaven ( Luke 13:24-30 & 1 Corinthians 5:8-11 ) and be excommunicated ( 1 Corinthians 5:4-5 ) and thus cast off from being a part of the firstfruits of the resurrection ( John 15:4-8 ) whereby after the great tribulation, they will be resurrected as vessels unto dishonor in His House to serve the King of kings on earth ( 2 Timothy 2:10 & Matthew 5:19 ). That is why even former believers are still called to repent ( 2 Timothy 2:13 & 2 Timothy 2:18-21 ) before the Bridegroom comes so they too, may inherit the eternal glory that comes with our salvation ( 2 Timothy 2:10-26 ) to be that vessel unto honor in His House by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help them discern good and evil by His words as kept in the KJV to lay aside every weight & sin ( Hebrews 12:1-2 ) to avoid the stripes for not being ready in Luke 12:40-49 & willing to go ( Luke 21:33-36 & Luke 14:15-33 ).

      We run that race as saved believers for the high prize of our calling in trusting Him as our Good Shepherd to finish His work in us to His glory for why we can rest in Him all the way Home. May sinners and religious carnal Christians stop looking to themselves to do His work in us to overcome sin dominating our lives by the deeds of the law like keeping commitments and promises, when we are to trust Him to do it per His New Covenant to us. Galatians 3:1-4 & Matthew 5:33-37 & John 6:28-29 & 1 John 3:3,8 & Philippians 1:6-11 & Galatians 5:1,5 & Hebrews 4:12-16 & Hebrews 2:18 & 1 Corinthians 10:12-13 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 & Philippians 4:6-9 & Psalm 19:12-14 & 2 Timothy 4:18 & Jude 1:24-25


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